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    Manipulative incompetent Female Boss/Owmer

    Posted by: thumper1023
    Date: 4/29/2006 2:41:15 PM

    This women's business is a branch of a leading Trucking company and she expresses her personal feelings and opinions in dealing with all the drivers. It's payton place, she turns the men drivers against each other and if your a female driver, watch out, the jealousy is out-of-control! I left the company because of the constant harassment. This is the second female boss/owner that I have had and probably never work for another female boss/owner again because they are unprofessional.



    Reply from: goodboss
    Date: 5/3/2006 2:01:00 PM
    Reply: I am a female boss/owner and I resent being labelled "unprofessional." I am very professional and I know this not only because many of my employees over the years have told me so (verbally and in writing - I've even received thank-you notes from several employees who I reluctantly had to dismiss, because I did it so humanely and professionally!), but also because of my many years of management training and experience. You should be hoping that your next boss is a female owner/boss who's half as professional as I am!

    Reply from: thumper1023
    Date: 5/3/2006 7:34:00 PM
    Reply: Toot your own horn if you must and if the shoe fits, wear it. A boss that will not and refuse not to do what they expect their employees to do, is unethical in management. As a boss you do not tidder-todder the fence and play on people emotions, get involved in their personal business and then throw it back in the employees faces. You don't sit around the office allday doing your nails and worrying about your next $15,000.00 dental surgery, when you got employees sitting in the drivers room with no work to pay their bills. I could go on and on........ I hope you are a great boss and you treat your employees with dignity and respect. But I now have a male boss and there is not any of the pettiness, jealousy, stabbing in the back etc... that I have had with the previous women boss/owners.

    Reply from: goodboss
    Date: 5/4/2006 8:48:00 AM
    Reply: So two female bosses (out of how many millions of female bosses there are in the world) means we're ALL bad? Then I guess you'd agree with me when I say that all male accountants are drunken smelly fools, just because I happened to meet a drunken smelly fool of a male accountant four years ago...with your tendency to erroneous and slanderous generalizations, no wonder your two previous female bosses couldn't stand you - and treated you accordingly!

    Reply from: thumper1023
    Date: 5/7/2006 8:57:00 AM
    Reply: You are very defensive of 2 female bosses of whom you do not know or have worked for. I did not say that ALL female bosses/owners were bad, you did. The situtation I was talking about is what I observed and how I was getting treated while I was employed there. She does this to all the employees, not just myself. Her abusive attitude is with all her drivers. If you do not kiss her @$$, she rebels against you by hitting your pocket book. This is wrong. I treated her with respect at first, I gave her the benefit of the doubt.( I was warned before being employed there, but I did not want to make a judgement based on hear say, I thought she was going to be just the type of business PERSON I was wanting to work for. I left a situtation that is bad work enviroment, your employees cannot be productive when they have a bad boss that will not listen to reason about anything,(especially when it's illegal) because it's her way or the highway. I must have hit a nerve with you. You are making a judgement against me with my hear say. I did not make any erroneous and slanderous generalizations, it is all fact! They showed their true colors. Their turn over rate is astronomical, so it cannot be because of the employees. I talk with former employees that have went else where, and they are making good money with no head games.

    Reply from: goodboss
    Date: 5/8/2006 9:54:00 AM
    Reply: This is what you said: "This is the second female boss/owner that I have had and probably never work for another female boss/owner again because they are unprofessional." And this is what I was responding to. If the last three words of your statement aren't slanderous generalities, then I don't know what is. If you don't want to be held responsible for the things you say, then don't say 'em. (And certainly, don't lie about it later!) If you take a minute or two to actually READ my posts, you'll find that I was in no way defending your female bosses (they may have been real monsters for all I know), but rather all of the OTHER smart, skilled, trained, professional, experiences, thoughtful, able and ethical female bosses out there - you know, the ones you tarred with the same brush as your monster bosses.

    Reply from: thumper1023
    Date: 5/13/2006 5:52:00 PM
    Reply: LOL....Let me correct myself. They were unprofessional! And because they were unprofessional I will probably NEVER work for ANY female owner/bosses again. You cannot let authority of any KIND, shape or form, go to your HEAD. If you do feel BIG and powerful because of it, don't take it out on your employees. Like the old saying "Don't burn any bridges". Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing, isn't it? I know what I said and how I meant it. I did not lie. You REREAD it. (You didn't understand it). Now maybe if you were an English teacher, you would have probably asked me if I needed to rephrase that. I think you should go to law school and become an attorney. You could go after all the OTHER irresponsible, lying,erronerous, slanderous generalists and you could be rich! Ooops, then you'd have to sue yourself. LOL... Don't quit your day job. All the smart, skilled, trained, professional, experienced, thoughtful, able and ethical female bosses out there would not be tarred by the brush, because they would be professional enough to see past it.

    Reply from: brn
    Date: 6/4/2006 1:56:00 AM
    Reply: Perhaps the best female bosses are doing a great job because they have found a way to make their best attributes an asset in a business environment that was almost entirely constructed by males and which has, until recently, operated largely in a male-mindset. That's no longer the case: many aspects of post-modern business function better in a feminine mind-set than a masculine one. Networking and sales, for example, are much more in line with the proclivity for relationship building that is a natural for many woman. Every workplace benefits from balance. It isn't easy. I am a man, and I am trying very hard to work for a female boss now. Even after seven years of studying sex roles at the college level I still managed to get fired by two women and I'm determined not to make it three. It's difficult. I'm one guy working with six or seven ladies. I know I don't think like they do, but I try to communicate. I found a couple books that help. There are differences between men and women, but I've found that the biggest problems arise with men who act more like the stereotype of a man than like a well-rounded person and women who act more like the stereotype of a woman. The colleagues whom I have great successes working with and who aren't creating problems are, like I am, all fairly un-gendered in their thinking and behaviors. We inherited a modern economy that long ago demolished and transformed the essential contributions to society--including production, trade, and culture--that woman provided for tens of thousands of years. But while it is no surprise that it would be difficult for men and women to collaborate in a male-centered economy, that economy has no future. My female boss drives me crazy and part of that is because I'm a man and I don't think like a woman. But most of the crazy stuff she does I've had male bosses do as annoyingly if not more so.

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