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Supervisor Takes "Some" Out To Lunch...Favoritism Charges
Posted by: rdsux
Date: 3/14/2009 2:49:54 PM
A Supervisor at my job regularly takes the same 2 or 3 guys to lunch with him. All 3 report to him. Other employees under him are disgruntled about it and say it is definitelt FAVORTISM. I believe so as well. Same Supervisor reported ME to my BOSS for "ADVISING" an hourly employee (I am Salaried- but, Non Management)who happens to be a friend of mine... to NOT sign his work performance review ..if he did NOT agree with the rating. What nerve this asshole has. Apparently one of Lunch Bunch SNITCHES overheard ME and told him. I'm sticking to my guns on this and actually contemplating MOVING it UP the chain. He has been observed by HIS BOSS and HIS BOSSES Boss taking the hourlies to lunch.
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goodboss |
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3/17/2009 5:50:00 AM |
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If you're asking whether this type of favouritism is legal or not, the answer is yes, it is legal. While you can't file a claim against your employer for this type of legal favouritism, you can (as you've mentioned) take this issue to your supervisor's boss. However, keep in mind that it's quite possible that your supervisor's boss is OK with what your supervisor is doing, given that he seems to already know about it and doesn't seem to have done anything about it. Finally, keep in mind that it would be quite legal to fire you for complaining about this. Unfortunate but true. |
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rdsux |
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3/17/2009 8:03:00 AM |
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Thanks for the reply. 2 Bosses higher than the Supervisor who takes certain hourly employees to Lunch... have personally seen him in a vehicle on the way to lunch with said hourly employees and/or has seen them onsite. They DO have a problem with it...just don't think they can/want to "Call Him Down For It". Legal/Illegal was NOT the cause of the posting. The irony is thick...I get called down for "ADVISING" an employee to NOT sign his review if he wasn't satisfied with it...but, it's 'OK' to take GIFTS from hourly employees and to take same employees OUT TO LUNCH regularly while NEVER taking the rest of the Crew out. That's just WRONG. Piss-Poor MGMT. Nothing to do with Legal/Illegal. AND as for ME being FIRED? I say U R WRONG. I have "ADVISED" before and stood strong to attempts + allusions to FIRING ME. Hope They Bring It On Again. |
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goodboss |
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3/21/2009 10:13:00 AM |
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It may be "Piss-Poor" management but unless you own the company, there's not much you can do about it. Regarding whether or not it would be legal to fire you for making complaints about this, please note that I have 20+ years' consulting experience providing legal research, guidance and training to CEOs, law firms, and individuals. So when I say something is legal, it is. Period. And if they do fire you for complaining too much, and you "stand strong" and refuse to leave, they may call the police to remove you, and you may be charged with trespassing. And this would also be perfectly legal. Finally, I really don't understand why you're so pissed off at me - you asked for advice, and you got it - the best, most accurate advice you could possibly get. If the attitude you're giving me (and the rest of us here) is any indication of the attitude you give at work, no wonder no one wants to have lunch with you. |
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rdsux |
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3/21/2009 11:09:00 PM |
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goodboss: You got me wrong. I am NOT pissed at you. Sorry if I conveyed that. Secondly, I do NOT want to go out to lunch with this guy. That has nothing to do with what I was "TRYING" to say. Like e-mail...postings like these are one or two dimensional and often get misconstrued/misinterpreted. Generally speaking, you have given logical, straight forward advice. I have no issue with you. Also, I failed to mention... about 20 people...at least...at my job OPENLY "Complain" about this Supervisor who takes out the same 2 or 3 HOURLY employees to Lunch. Worst kept secret at my job. I am NOT alone. So, I guess the Company will FIRE all 20 of us? Strength In Numbers, Buddy. There you go..more context...easier to understand now? NOW that's some ATTITUDE! |
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| Reply from: |
goodboss |
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3/22/2009 8:41:00 AM |
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First, I never said the company WOULD fire you for complaining, I said the company COULD fire you for complaining. And that if it DID fire you for complaining, it would be legal. Second, there is nothing illegal (or even particularly unethical) about a supervisor taking some employees out to lunch and not others. As long as the company doesn't do anything about this, it (the company) is condoning - even encouraging - this behaviour. And there's nothing illegal about that either. You can continue complaining to the company about this, however if the company has no intention of changing things, all your complaints are gonna do is annoy the higher-ups. And the more annoyed they get, the more likely they'll want you gone. |
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| Reply from: |
rdsux |
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3/22/2009 12:48:00 PM |
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Goodboss: I understand what you're saying. Let me give you a little more background: My BOSS + MY Boss's BOSS BOTH Agree with ME that the Supervisor's behavior is incorrect. They have BOTH, in fact...pointed it OUT to ME!!! Let me reitterate that I am NOT in MGMT also. Not Hourly either. Salaried Employee-NOT MGMT.In addition, when we have 'HR' in the plant every 6 months or so for "Gripe Sessions", "Feedback Forums", etc...this subject about the Supervisor who routinely takes the same 2 or 3 guys out for Lunch...comes up! 'HR' states that it is "Inappropriate Behavior" and that they will confront him about it. Nothing Ever Happens from 'HR' -or- from the Managers above the Supervisor, however. They just cannot get off the snide, that's all. Cannot bring themselves(collectively)to confronting him. It is NOT that they don't really care about...they do...evenly VERBALLY saying so in front of dozens of witnesses. I feel "compelled" to keep referencing it whenever I can to the individuals who have already acknowledged it is wrong!!! I'm just trying to find out why they are "AFRAID" of this man. Way more about this story than meets the eye. |
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goodboss |
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3/25/2009 8:14:00 PM |
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I have no idea why they're not doing anything about this. But the fact that they aren't doing anything leads me to believe that they (and by "they" I mean senior management and not HR - HR can't do anything about this without authorization from whoever HR reports to) WON'T do anything about it leads me to suspect that they're NEVER gonna do anything about it. And given that, there's not much YOU can do about this, either. I strongly recommend you get over this and move on to other things...like your work. |
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| Reply from: |
rdsux |
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3/28/2009 10:48:00 PM |
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goodboss: U R correct! I need to move on in reference to this issue. But I won't. I am going to get to the "Root Cause" of why this is allowed to happen. Let's just say I got a "HARD-ON" that just won't quit! The ONLY reason I made an issue out of it in the 1st place was when the aforementioned Supervisor had the nerve to REPORT me to my Boss for "advising" an hourly employee (who is a friend of mine) to NOT sign a Performance Review he disagreed with. I would give this advice to ANYONE friend or otherwise...at work or NOT. It is Good, Sound Advice that I have utilized effectively throughout the years. Straight forward and nothing wrong with it. AND I HAVE NOT BEEN WRITTEN UP OR FIRED FOR IT IN 25 YEARS!!!!! Nobody should sign anything they don't agree with. What the HELL is so EVIL about that?Logical.Intelligent...ADVICE.Meanwhile, he continues to show his Favortism toward a select few in his Department while the other people in his employ become increasingly disgruntled. I do NOT work with him or for him. For his sake...he should consider himself "LUCKY". |
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| Reply from: |
goodboss |
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4/6/2009 8:46:00 AM |
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Telling a coworker to be insubordinate is a reasonable cause for concern. Spending all this time yelling and screaming because your supervisor takes some people out to lunch and not others (i.e., you) is 'way OTT and completely unreasonable. If your attitude and behaviour at work is even 10% of the crap you've displayed here, then I am completely astonished that you haven't been fired before now. Perhaps your employer thinks you're insane (and you sure do sound like it) and feels sorry for you. I don't. |
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| Reply from: |
rdsux |
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4/7/2009 10:32:00 PM |
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I forgive you for that last post "GoodBoss". Sorry You Feel That Way. You haven't read my posts very well. Your responses are full of inaccurate acqusations. Go "Bully" Somebody Else On Here. BTW... Y R U So Obsessed By My Subject Matter?
Read Liberty and Tyranny by Mark Levin |
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| Reply from: |
vmccullough |
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8/6/2009 1:03:00 PM |
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I'm a supervisor and I have lunch with two employees daily one reports to me and the other does not. I don't buy their lunch we bring our lunch and sometime do a pot luck. I have approx 19 people reporting to me and I have provided lunch for all of them for team building or just for all to have lunch. Well someone went to HR about my lunch and I was ask to stop having lunch with the employee that reports to me, HR suggest that I move around my room and have lunch with some of the other people in my room. That's my hour and the company handbook clearly states that I get one hour paid lunch and I am relieved from my duties at that time. I should be able to eat lunch with the person of my choice. I have been employed with this company for 11 years and never had this problem before, I'm ready to seek some legal assistance for advice. What you think????? |
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| Reply from: |
upsetsupervisor |
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5/12/2011 10:16:00 PM |
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I am in a similar position? what is the answer? |
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