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    Read this before you complain to HR

    Posted by: stacyrite
    Date: 8/17/2009 9:23:52 PM

    Thinking about going to HR?

    If you do not have solid evidence against your boss (tape and video recording, etc.), stay away from HR. You will be blacklisted and retaliated against!

    Instead of going to HR, go to Employee Justice Report at a free employee advocacy program) file a report on your boss, rate your boss, and follow the strategies to hide behind the Internet and bring about fast and tremendous changes on your job. The strategies are in the FAQ section under My Reports and under Rate your Employer and Investigator.

    Reply from: cami
    Date: 8/22/2009 11:30:00 AM
    Reply: good advice. I once tried HR, big mistake. they are part of the problem.

    Reply from: goodboss
    Date: 8/23/2009 10:22:00 AM
    Reply: I've been in HR for more than 20 years, and I've never blacklisted or retaliated against any employee who filed a legitimate complaint with me. And neither have my HR colleagues or any of the HR professionals (past and current) who have worked for me. I understand that there are bad, unprofessional HR people out there, however, their numbers are by far surpassed by the rest of us. As you know, there are always some bad apples in every basket - but that should in no way be construed that all apples are bad! Saying that all HR people are bad is exactly the same as saying that all black people are stupid, or that all non-HR employees are idiots. By slamming HR people just because one HR person treated you badly you have committed the same "crime" that you accuse HR people of doing, i.e., you've blacklisted us. And that simply doesn't make sense.

    Reply from: hunkyhamster
    Date: 8/30/2009 8:42:00 PM
    Reply: I fully agree with the warning against HR. I work in the biotech industry, and the discrimination is very strong against anyone lacking a Ph.D. Many of my colleagues had similar stories of how their dealings with HR went sour. Not all HR people are bad (one at a college at which I worked was particularly sharp and helpful), but many are incompetent and some are downright hostile if those three magic letters do not follow your name.

    Reply from: goodboss
    Date: 9/11/2009 8:23:00 PM
    Reply: hunkyhamster, I think part of the problem lies in the fact that many people at the hiring level don't really understand the HR function and/or what HR people do. Many people think that HR is something that really sociable types do when they don't feel like making sales...or it's something requiring good party organizing skills. And it's not! Hiring an HR person just because she likes organizing parties is like hiring an accountant just because he thinks numbers look pretty! I personally have a post-graduate diploma in HR management, and a hard-fought-for (and expensive) professional designation/license. I fully believe that this is the minimum required for someone to be a "sharp and helpul" HR professional. I hope you agree...and I also hope you'll soften your implication that all HR professionals are evil. We are not! The unprofessional HR people out there aren't really HR people.

    Reply from: raidergirl
    Date: 9/14/2009 5:50:00 PM
    Reply: I really have to agree with stacyrite. I had an issue at work where my supervisor flew of the handle over a discussion about my softball team. He told several employees that he wanted to punch me out. I called HR a couple of days later. Days turned into weeks and things got worse and worse. My boss is not on site and works out of Texas. I talked to her and she told me to keep HR in the loop. Everyday I had to contact HR because of my supervisor's harassing words and comments to me. Every time I contacted HR he would get an email telling him someone made a complaint about you. This made things worse. He would retaliate against me using my co-workers. It was awful! This didn't happen to long ago either...about 10 months ago. The company HR did absolutely nothing to protect me! I have very little confidence in them.

    Reply from: goodboss
    Date: 9/19/2009 1:01:00 PM
    Reply: So, raidergirl, because you had one bad experience with one HR person, you believe all HR people are bad? How insulting of you! I am personally offended by your attitude. I am also puzzled - what did I personally ever do to harm you?

    Reply from: bestrong
    Date: 9/24/2009 10:20:00 PM
    Reply: Um, goodboss...raidergirl did not say anything about your performance. Why it persoknally offended you is your problem. HR departments number one goal is to look out for the best intrest of the company. Not be an advocate for every employee. My company has a serial harasser and threatener. Five, FIVE women before me have gone and filed oral complaints with our HR department and just last week he threatened me and and told me I would not be promoted because I was female. I will be writing a formal letter of complaint and if necessary hiring a lawyer. Get over yourself!

    Reply from: goodboss
    Date: 9/26/2009 11:23:00 AM
    Reply: stacyrite, cami, hunkyhamster and raidergirl have all stated publicly that HR people are untrustworthy and unprofessional (to paraphrase). I am an HR person, ergo, they are saying that I am untrustworthy and unprofessional. And when someone calls me untrustworthy and unprofessional, I take it as a personal insult - as would any rational and intelligent person. (beststrong, how would YOU react if someone called YOU untrustworthy and unprofessional?) If you, stacyrite, cami, hunkyhamster, raidergirl and others that their HR reps are too untrustworthy and unprofessional to seek assistance from, I invite you to post your issues here. I will do my utmost to respond with trustworthy and professional advice. That's what I'm here for.

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