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Help! In bad situation
Posted by: tuffstuff
Date: 4/29/2004 4:43:43 AM
Hello- I need some good sound advice. When I interviewed with my boss, he seemed okay, but he is a tyrant. He is poorly qualified, a bad communicator, and argumentative-he often takes everything the wrong way. i was told not to use alot of the things i learned in college with him, for he doesnt take well to people under him with good educations-they were right. his meetings are poorly facilitated, and are often arguing matches. he will say that everything is okay until we get to the meetings, where he pounds the table and complains about everything he never told me was wrong, and something is always wrong;noone gets a verbal thanks, ever. he is dishonest and evasive, and despite the high turnover rate, he says that it is other people, not him. i told him that this environment wasn't a good one, and that he fails to see that it is him. he told me that you cannot get everything out of life that you want, including a good work environment. he said that anyone that wants to leave can turn in a resignation. he ignores the destructive behavior of other employees, and noone really checks on his behavior because he is not in a very visible operation. he is good at putting on a face to others, and he told me that if anyone tries to complain about him, he has made a good enough impression on the higher-ups that they will turn a deaf ear on it, and say that he is a good guy. when people are late or absent because they are sick or for an emergency, he paints a picture to the rest of the organization that they are loafing or absent/ late for other purposes. he focuses on others so that people will not focus on his own shortcomings. he saps the life out of employees instead of energizing them. he is loud and exaggerates everything. it is impossible to have a civil conversation with him, because os his argumentative nature-he will get revenge on a person who challenges him or offers him feedback by asserting his power and storming in to thier department and calling a meeting. if a person takes a vacation, he compiles a list of everything that went wrong while they were gone to talk about when they return. after returning from my last vacation, he held a four and a half hour conference about everything that went wrong! he forgets things, even forgetting that he attended one of my presentations. the sad thing is, we work for the gov't/dept. of def., and if i quit, i cannot pay my rent, and he is hell bent on sabotaging my efforts through a bad reference-what can i do? this man is untouchable.
| Reply from: |
tuffstuff |
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4/30/2004 10:46:00 AM |
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just an update-today he fired one of my employees, because he percieved a problem that neither me or any other employee agrees with. he said he doesnt believe me, and he told the other employee in front of me that if i hadnt failed as a leader, he wouldn't be fired. He said that he doesn't care if i don't see any cause for firing him-he has the ultimate power and he wants to fire him because he does not like his attitude. he told me that other employees did not like his attitude, but i talked to all fo my employees, and they said that he came to them fishing for things and they said they didn't have any problems. he paced back and forth and told the employee that he would not be fired if i had addressed my problems with him earlier, but i don't have any problems with him. he created this whole mess, and after 2 hours of him blowing steam in his office and calling me a failure, i collapsed because i was already sick. he asked me how much time if he needed to deduct lunch from my time if i needed to go home and that was it. i am a young college graduate who got hired by the us government to work overseas, and noone knows that i am undergoing such abuse on a daily basis. he has so many friends over here, that i can't get anywhere. i am a young person living alone in a foreign country and being abused emotionally so bad. i cry when i go home every day for hours and nobody in this power structure wants to help me. he said to go home if i do not like him, but i moved all the way over here, rented an apt., everything. please help me, anyone out there |
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gary |
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5/2/2004 10:08:00 AM |
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I suggest that you document everything in terms of your boss's bad behavior and get another position as soon as possible. In the interim, try to network as broadly as you can. Regarding a reference, you will likely have to avoid using him given what he may say and what he may do in response to learning that you are looking for a new position. Also develop a plan by having a good hard look at all of the site's resources and also check out the books for specific tactics to defend yourself without risking losing your job. After you develop a plan, you can contact us at Badbossology.com to arrange a discussion to review your plan. |
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| Reply from: |
nsnd |
| Date: |
5/11/2004 7:44:00 AM |
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Document everything, however unless you are one of the lucky few his bosses will not see the light.
Start looking for a NEW boss.
I have had a few bosses that done me wrong. However my confidence was waning on the last few due to you start to think is it ME and not THEM. I called an old boss and explained my problems and he told me to find a new boss as since he is your boss most companies will side with the boss.
Move on let the company figure out he is a problem. You are the only one you can control.
So start looking for a new job. Just
DON'T do it while at work.
Do it at home in the evening.
Don't tell ANYONE at work not even your BEST FRIENDS.
I wish you luck,
Nathan |
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| Reply from: |
bookert |
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5/18/2004 1:14:00 AM |
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bookert,
Start getting refrences from co-workers instead of the boss. Go around him rather than through him. Try to network above your boss. Pick a mentor out of someone above him, tell them that you are interested in moving up and want someone to help you out. Document the abuse. Join the Union and get someone in the Union to help you. Chances are upper management are aware of the problem if turn over is high. Most of all find activities you enjoy outside of work to balance out what you go through everyday. IT IS NOT YOU. It is his problem. Be proud of the work you do and You can't change the situation just your reaction to it. Kill him with kindness and in the mean time apply for everyjob coming down the pike and get out ASAP. People like your boss thrive on conflict and the fact they can inflict havoc. Don't let him see you sweat. The employee who was fired knows you didn't do anything to get him fired and so does everyone in the office. So don't beat yourself to death over it. Trust in the job you do and are doing well. Don't let your boss destroy you in his race to destroy his own life. Take a class on conflict resolution. Most workplaces will even pay for it. Say it is for job development. Your boss is a bully, Just like at school treat him like you would any bully.
Good luck I know how it is I have a boss who is making my life hell too.
TR |
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| Reply from: |
n68firebird |
| Date: |
5/22/2004 11:08:00 AM |
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This guy sounds like he has multiple personal issues that have nothing to do with you personally. He seems threatened by your educational background and your work. Otherwise I am sure he would not attack you so vehemently. Therefore, unfortunately, you cannot change the circumstances or him. I would leave, if I were you - but not before either meeting with his supervisors or sending them a detailed letter outlining all that has happened. Many have obviously suffered at his hands just as you have, and it needs to stop. Also, you might remind the supervisors that it takes time and money to interview, select, and train the long line of job candidates coming and going from that manager's employ. |
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| Reply from: |
wannagohome |
| Date: |
5/29/2004 12:50:00 PM |
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Write a formal complaint about the situation. You will have to leave this place of employement, but you may be able to claim constructive dismissal (having to leave a place of employment due to workplace harassment). |
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| Reply from: |
rayboy |
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5/29/2004 10:55:00 PM |
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processes won't work..you already know that...life is short ...change jobs and get on with your life..... |
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| Reply from: |
javann |
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6/1/2004 11:44:00 PM |
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I agree with the other responses, you need to get out of that situation! I work with a great worldwide company with flexible hours, great pay and wonderful people. If you are at all interested, you can email me, with no obligation, at kid10303@hotmail.com for more information. |
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| Reply from: |
jenny |
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6/22/2004 4:47:00 PM |
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I surely am sorry for all you're going through, tuffstuff...And I wish there was something I could do for you. I spent time overseas, and know how lonely that can be when no one around you is interested in you. My suggestion? Come home. Count that as one BAD experience. Write a book about it...name names, companies, dates, everything...then BURN THAT BOOK. Get it out of your system, and MOVE ON! Best wishes for a brighter future. |
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| Reply from: |
help |
| Date: |
7/16/2004 10:40:00 PM |
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just try to get out that place. find another job. itseems tough when u r looking for a job, but, believe me, u can definitely find one. try to spend ur time at home looking for a job. when u go for interviews, tell them not to contact ur current employer. try to make friends at ur workplace(this is wat i did, and life seems to be better now), but be careful when u do this. u boss might have some pets. jsut give a hint in the beginning and see how they respond, and then proceed. after sometime, try to write an anonymous letter to the HR. even if they dont take any action they will have this on record...get out of there, that is the best solution. try to talk to anybody senior(even if that person is not related to ur company)and ask their suggestions |
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| Reply from: |
tuffstuff |
| Date: |
8/1/2004 5:19:00 AM |
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Thanks everyone for the encouraging words. I am, finally going home. After giving my one month notice (it will take about a month to get ready and find another job), he prepared a list of everything i did wrong while working here. funny thing is, they were all things he ordered me to do or he said he'd fire me. In my place he is hiring someone who spouts slurs about a certian religion on a regular basis. i tried to recover the money i got cheated out of from shady payroll practices, tried to complain about the emotional abuse, the comments, the harrassment, etc. Noone did anything. i sent my complaint to Washington, DC. i hope that they do something, but i will be gone by then. he is cutting off my one month notice and firing me tomorrow as revenge for complaining. i will travel for a month and enjoy myself before i go home, and just relax. perhaps i do not need to work this last month. So much for the US government and protection of it's workers. Friday was the last straw. He came in my office and paced back and forth blowing off steam and wouldn't leave. i had to beg him to leave me alone. I am so wounded emotionally. I am a young lady who is hurt, damaged, and so run down from a harrowing experience from a man who got high off of intimidation and fear. With every threat and put-down, he got more vicious. When i cried, i could see him getting off on it. How do i recover to the person i was before? any suggestions on how to get myself back? thanks, guys. |
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