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    Bosses who lie

    Posted by: emere4
    Date: 5/29/2007 3:33:27 AM

    I am currently taking my boss to court for bullying. I have a good solicitor who is definitely serious about my case. I went off on workers compensation. It was then that she produced a statement that has demonstrable lies in every paragraph. Fortunately I have documentation to demonstrate the lies, however no-one has asked me about the claims yet. This person has not been asked by anyone to substantiate her accusations.

    The Factual Investigators never spoke to me. It has been going on for 7 months now and still no-one has asked her.

    Would anyone be able to advise me if this sort of thin is common? Is this the sort of action of a guilty party? Will she ever be asked to substantiate he defamatory false allegations. She justifies her dishonesty by calling it effective management.

    I am rather down in the dumps about it.

    I have a hearing in two weeks, there are so many false allegations that it will take weeks of court time just to refute them.



    Reply from: goodboss
    Date: 5/29/2007 8:50:00 AM
    Reply: First, unfortunately this sort of thing is fairly common. Facing court (as your former boss is) can be a terribly upsetting experience, and this upset will often exaggerate any negative personality characteristics a person has. So in the case of your former boss, she was already a bully, and now the upset of facing court has turned her into a liar as well. Second, understand that she will have to bring documented evidence of her allegations to court. If the allegations are untrue, she won't have any evidence, and they will therefore probably disappear before you even get to court. However, I do recommend that you write down a careful and detailed response to each allegation (as detailed as possble - someimes the response will be a simple "I never did that") and take that to your lawyer before the hearing to discuss.

    Reply from: Mjenny
    Date: 6/3/2007 3:08:00 PM
    Reply: Just make sure you have documented the evidence to support your claims. The court always look for the piece of evidence in order to make sound decisions, and it is hoped that the court judgment would be in your favor. Good Luck!

    Reply from: athena911
    Date: 6/20/2007 4:21:00 PM
    Reply: emere4, Buddy! I sure wish you luck! I have a similar situation, and my employer is bringing these 'mysterious, anonymous' accustaions to me. Hard to give a comprehensive and complete answer when you don't know what is really going on! I will be watching for updates from you as to how your case goes, since I may be headed in the same direction in the near future! Athena911

    Reply from: emere4
    Date: 6/25/2007 11:20:00 PM
    Reply: Been to the hearing, she produced evidence out of context that could be twisted to look bad. You cannot counter every accusation when you are dealing with a liar. What did happen is that a highly ranked witness that she quoted (lie) gave evidence that he did not say such a thing. Meanwhile she has had others reporting part conversations in which I said that "she was a psychopath" Now they are playing the "hate card" when in fact it is the opposite. She plays one person off against the other and sets up barriers to prevent people from comparing notes. In the end I hope that the courts will see that she has lied and lied in a sworn statement and she will go. I am also disabled in the form of autism and they are playing that up. I think that the higher the stakes the dirtier the fight. This person will be de-registered by our professional body for making a false sworn statement. I have another week to go before the court hands down it's written decision. Meanwhile it has cost me about $13,000 in lost wages and medical fees which they have not payed and I cannot claim on the National Health. Fortunately I had money put aside for just such an occasion. If I had been poor I would have had to fold by now. It seems a previous bully and the latest are old friends. Interesting question. What is a bunch of bullies called? A "gaggle"? I have documented everything very carefully but it seems that it still is not enough or maybe it is that is why they are twisting things. I am going away for a week or three so I will post you when I know the results. Thanks for the support.

    Reply from: MAE
    Date: 7/11/2007 4:24:00 PM
    Reply: so what has happened?

    Reply from: faith
    Date: 7/18/2007 10:32:00 PM
    Reply: I filed a workers comp claim against a former employer who discriminated against which caused me undue stress. I documented the behavior and incidents which was what saved me. She never showed up to my hearing; However, she sent a former co-worker to lie. This is probably not the first time your boss or company has done this. Hopefully, you can stick it out until the end and win.

    Reply from: emere4
    Date: 7/24/2007 12:46:00 AM
    Reply: Mae :- The Court told me they would be handing down a written judgment in 2 weeks that 2 weeks was up 3 weeks ago. Faith:- That is dirty tricks but it seems that is what we up against. One thing that you can argue is the age of the grievance and why it was not addresss at the time. The longer the time the more applicable. Try to get them to address current issues. They tried to use a letter that was 2 years old without the associated paperwork (context) it backfired. I am an excellent record keeper so I have mountains of proof but what needs to be done is stop new evidence/accusations. This is an old trick. They show some twisted evidence and you never get to question them as you are too busy trying to defend yourself to look at their behaviour

    Reply from: emere4
    Date: 7/24/2007 12:49:00 AM
    Reply: I have 20 $k in the bank so its not a problem to wait and wait. I have few expenses. If I had not had that I would have folded long ago.

    Reply from: MAE
    Date: 8/17/2007 1:28:00 AM
    Reply: I didn't know you can sue your boss. Did you work for a smaller company. Currently my situation is in investigations with my lawyer. They are trying to get me to quit so they don't have to pay severence. My lawyer wants to file a constructive Discharge because there is no way I can return to that position. I took medical leave for six weeks. Then they paid another 4 weeks while they investigated, now I am takiing my three weeks vacation because I start a new job on Monday. I still have not officially resigned. My lawyer is trying for a settlement.

    Reply from: emere4
    Date: 10/7/2007 7:58:00 AM
    Reply: So here we are in October, my case has been won, I still haven't been paid. No one is communicating. I am still of work. There is not Injury Management Plan. Despite all these fine laws there seems no-one to oversee them or enforce them. Officially I am still employed. The lieing boss has not got the job permanently but she still has a job on the same income. Is there any justice in this world?

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