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Is this right?
Posted by: hadenuff
Date: 8/17/2007 1:35:00 AM
I responded to an ad for a part-time position. At the interview, they said the hours were 9-5 and a 3-day schedule. Nobody mentioned it was a part-time to full-time job and it was clear this was part-time. They hired and my schedule was set, but about a month later, they asked me to work full-time. When I said no, they gave notice they were looking for a full-timer to replace me. Can they change the terms? It seems a bit disorganized and badly handled. Nothing changed as far as I can tell, except they made a gross mistake in assessing the hiring needs. And I was caught up in the middle. They asked me for 2 weeks notice, until they found a full-timer but I rejected that idea. After the way they behaved, I decided it was better to make these people suffer a little. On my last day, their secretary pulled me aside, and offered that I made the right decision. She said the place was notorious for overworking, underpaying, and they were having clear financial problems. I believe I made the right decision! For me, the lesson was, it's important to explore more how well the company's assessed their needs and be prepared for anything! thanks!
| Reply from: |
goodboss |
| Date: |
8/17/2007 10:36:00 AM |
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Hi hadenuff, how are you these days (other than suffering through this latest frustration)? Nothing illegal has transpired here UNLESS you quit another job specifically to take the offered three-days-per-week job. If that's the case, then I reco you speak to an attorney about something called "detrimental reliance" - you may be able to get a bit of cash that way. Also, as you've found out, company recruiters and hiring managers are notorious for leaving out large chunks of important information during the hiring process. I'm an HR Director and I'm shocked at how many new employees come to me with stories about the lies they were told during hiring. (If it was just s few people, I might think they were just troublemakers, however, no, there are just too many of 'em for that.) You're quite right in thinking that it's fallen to the jobhunter to aggressively get the info he/she needs to make an informed decision. |
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| Reply from: |
hadenuff |
| Date: |
8/17/2007 5:21:00 PM |
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Hi there, good boss. Thanks for the reply and remembering my situation. Yeah, this past year of employment has been tough for me; I'm beginning to feel like a loser.
I was wondering about that issue, of detrimental reliance and really my damages. I was working as an independent contractor on my own before this situation. I wasn't making a whole lot. This employer paid me more than the independent contractors - can I still claim detrimental reliance in that case? If they paid me more in the last month than I would have earned on my own?
On a different note, you're point is right about the truthfulness of things said in interviews and in recruiting. They completely misrepresented the job. Frankly, I'm digsusted with this situation, how ridiculously egocentric certain employers are.
I think I acted rashly in hindsight. These situations are hard enough to deal with as they are without beating myself up for them....but I terminated the relationship too soon perhaps. I was struggling with having to come into the office after their treatment of me and being stepped on like that. So I quit. I didn't want to come in and have to be productive and work under the circumstances. Really, I wish they could have offered me severance of some kind but given their financial position, that was hardly an option.
Very frustrating...very disappointing experience. |
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| Reply from: |
goodboss |
| Date: |
8/18/2007 7:10:00 AM |
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Keep on plugging, you'll get something good soon. Treat all this as a learning experience - the more "learning experiences" you have now, the better your situation will be when you finally get that dream job you're looking for. Regarding detrimental reliance, this comes into play when a person quits a secure job based on a promise of something better, and that "something better" doesn't pan out (meaning the person relied on the promise to his/her detriment). Now that I know more about what happened, I'm not so sure this applies in your case, especially given that the broken promise involved more money (presumably more hours would have meant more money), and that you quit. Again, take this as a learning experience and use what you've learned as you keep searching. Good luck, and if you have any questions about prospective jobs, feel free to ask 'em here and I'll try to answer as best I can. |
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| Reply from: |
hadenuff |
| Date: |
8/20/2007 3:04:00 PM |
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Thank you - it's appreciated very much! |
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| Reply from: |
hadenuff |
| Date: |
8/24/2007 12:25:00 AM |
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Hello to all, I wanted to provide an update. 8 days after I left (or was let go) from the prior place, I've been offered another opportunity...This time, I learned to ask the tough questions up front about this practitioner's finances, and what the commitment was being made to me in terms of part-time, temporary, etc. I'm even putting it in writing.
Many lessons learned from the prior experience, the bad one.
So there is hope...
It's uncertain if this will land me in the same place as before, but I accepted the offer because tired of looking, and uncertainty.
But, God has been kind to me in offering this so soon...
Thanks! |
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| Reply from: |
goodboss |
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8/24/2007 7:59:00 AM |
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Good for you! |
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