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Boss makes myself and my team feel incompetent but feel there's nothing we can do
Posted by: lee
Date: 6/21/2005 3:24:02 AM
I am in a team of 8 including a seniour specialist and my manager. I have worked for this company for 2.5 years and have worked under this manager for 10 months. My manager has never managed people before and has an amazing way to manipulate words. He is demeaning and all of the team no longer want to work for the company becuase of the way we have been treated. We have taken our concerns to his manager and a meeting was organised. Unfortunately our manager got wind of this and insisted that he sit in on the meeting, and as he is so intimadating half you group didn't voice their opinions. Some of the issues were discussed but the team felt that we didn't have the full support from our boss's boss as we couldn't voice our concerns without being overridden by our manager. Our manager pulled his head in slightly after this meeting but know a couple of months has past and he is back to his old self. Our team is now at a loss as what we can do. We can still go the HR department but how do you put a complaint in about someone's poor management skills and personality, when he is do manipulative and intimadating? Please help..
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siggpuppy |
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6/21/2005 7:56:00 AM |
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HR will not help you much. It's a fair statement from not only me. Many people will have the same opinion about HR. They keep their seat and protect the company.
Your team may get together with written document that can be proved wheter it's true or not. Again, the case may not help much. Many times, I mentioned about At Will states. If you were in that environment, your chance is only 50% I presumed. This means that you do not have supported system to back you up. There are only 5 states that undertstand such a thing like this. Read more about Dignity at work, you may have some ideas to deal with your problems.
Do not give up, if you still work for them. |
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carolyn |
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7/3/2005 11:29:00 PM |
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wow, this sounds so familiar. my boss forgets what she said from day to day and will even ask "who ever thought of that stupid idea," --when it was her.my problem is that my counterpart doesn't want to address these discrepancies, and she even stated "I know how to play the game". my boss loves her. i can't stand playing games and i try to address things, but my boss thinks i rock the boat too much. it is a well known fact, if my boss finds out you went to her boss, you are dog meat. the only thing i have found helpful is to develop my own leadership skills. she demoralizes me and others in front of others. i have learned alot from her-how not to behave! it's tough because you can't be honest in front of your boss and his boss. i can relate!! my boss wants to pretend that everything is great in front of her boss, and she will quickly extinguish any uttering of a problem before you can finish a sentence. i keep reading books and articles about this bullying, and it seems like only the victim can stop it from happening. the trick is to remain professional while doing that. good luck, i am still working on that myself. update if you have any strategies that worked for you.
carolyn |
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igeraghtyb |
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7/14/2005 11:53:00 AM |
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Great reply Carolyn, I agree - you can also back up your professional attitiude by making sure you document any potential 'bad decisions' that your boss makes prior to the proverbial hitting the fan. You can then run through the bad decision with the boss, masking it as a 'lessons learned' session for all involved in the project. That way the boss gets to admit they were wrong without it being thrown in their face. |
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beverleymunoz |
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8/9/2005 7:24:00 AM |
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I'm working on a show for CNN and we're doing a piece on 'managing your boss'. i would love to talk to anyone about how you they manage their boss, or if they are a boss, aboyt they think they should be managed by their subordinates. It would be a great opportunity to help superiors and subordinates look at their working relationship etc. Any help would be much appreciated. Call me any time on: +44 207 693 1615 / +44 7816 066 091. My name is Beverley and I'm based in London. Look forward to hearing from you soon.
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