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    Shit Runs Downhill

    Posted by: imwonderful2
    Date: 8/17/2005 6:40:34 AM

    I work in a plant that makes parts for automobiles. Been there almost 2 years and from the day I walked in the plant I knew this was a seriously messed up working environment.

    So I have made a commitment to changing what I can, although it is a huge problem. The plant has had a revolving door of bosses from hell for at least a decade. It's not that managers and supervisors quit, its that they are shoved out the door when they cant provide the efficiency and productivity demands assigned to them.(You can already guess why they cant)

    So for far too long the entire work staff has been damaged by bad bosses. An excellent example of a "poisoned work environment"

    This Monday our production supervisor had a meeting with our shift--approximately 30 people. He told us of a new corporate mandate that was asking for 30%(!!) increased production from us. He also casually pointed out...again!!..in plain language using the phrase "shit runs downhill"

    I politely told him that it was an extremely bad term to use with his team members. That there was no one "downhill" from him because we, the production workers(grunts) were equally important members of the team. That we were in fact his business partners who provide a service for which we are paid.

    I also informed him that there were more effective ways to motivate people than using disciplinary action for failing to meet increasing work schedules(which is exactly what they use).

    And I suggested he should be looking into them.

    As he stood there looking like a kid caught in the cookie jar he agreed."okay" was all he could respond with.

    I said "Thank you" and that was the end of our dialogue. Interestingly during this time there was none of the usual criticisms and complaints from the rest of the 30 or so employees.

    Maybe something took hold there because in the last 2 days supervisors have been voicing appreciation or a job well done and offering to cover an employee while he took a bathroom break...both of which are new phenomena.

    I think it helps that I have always displayed a good work ethic and expressed no complaints, as many others do.



    Reply from: imwonderful2
    Date: 8/17/2005 7:01:00 AM
    Reply: Addendum: I can even understand why so many bosses in the auto industry are bosses-from-hell. Many of them are educated as engineers. And I can certainly understand why someone with an engineering degree would have some good skills to bring to the auto industry. However it is also clear that these people who are charged with the responsibility of directing the actions of people are never given any training in leadership skills or team building. To me that would be a logical approach. But then it never ceases to amaze me how stupid highly educated people can be. In my industry bad bosses abound merely because they havent been provided with the necessary resources to do their jobs. This has resulted in an epidemic of unhappy and less productive workers, absenteeism and excessive health related claims

    Reply from: secretagent
    Date: 8/20/2005 5:13:00 AM
    Reply: I worked in the auto industry. In one global tier 1 systems supplier, the short-termism of the psychopathic made cars unsafe. He focused on today's production volume and nothing else. He authorised removal and de-labelling of parts from scrap bins in order to meet production demands, rather than facilitating a production plant that didn't make scrap. He was a classic psycho-bully and routinely humiliated the most competent and dedicated people. He would have meetings with managers after which the managers took six months off and then disappeared altogether. I was the third person this happened to. The psycho-boss now lectures at a prestigious university business school, which has, as part of its syllabus, mock boardroom discussions. I took the firm to court and won, but was opposed all the way by a global HR director from the canadian head office, and a corrupt lawyer. They pitted their unlimited financial and legal resources against me to stop me trying to get my life back. Four years on, the legal battle continues in a second appeal, I'm interacting with web sites like this one, and I'm self employed outside the auto industy. The funny thing is that before I was bullied, my skills were really highly regarded by employer and customer. After I was bullied, they counted for very little. Thus the psycho boss actively contributes to de-skilling the automotive industry... bringing it down to his level I suppose.

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